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 Post subject: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:39 pm 
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I have to supply copies of documents to prove we live permanently in France for CPAM. Normally this isn't a problem, but they seem to have changed their choice of list ..

carte de séjour
récépissé en cours de validité
convocation ou rendex-vous en prefecture

This is on top of filling out several forms, and supplying a copy of an avis d'imposition. Usually a copy of a service bill (EDF for example) has been enough in the past! 8-| Plus, this is just applying for renewal, so they have all our details on record already ...(you'd think! :- )

I didn't think cartes des séjour were applicable anymore (having been here for nearly 10 years). Can anyone shed any light on this? :-\

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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Hang on, surely EU citizens haven't needed a CdS for donkey's years...2007? Surely your URSSAF/MSA/Chambre de Whatever docs will do, to prove you are, and have been, here for some considerable time? Sounds as thoughthe stagiaires are runnign the CPAM while the werkers are on hols.

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Didn't read your message properly (end of a long, hard day). Just tell them where you come from and how long you've been here. Perhaps your deep suntan is confusing them :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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Have you been peeping? :ymsmug:


It's only my arms and face that'd fool them!! :lol: In a bikini, I'd be fifty shades of grey!! :-j

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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MAD87 wrote:
Sounds as thoughthe stagiaires are running the CPAM while the werkers are on hols.



Many a true word was said in jest!!! :-ss

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I would have thought that your avis d'imposition + a recent utility bill would be proof positive. Mind you, I've read recent circulars which talk about CdS for EU citizens, so perhaps we're really experiencing le changement under Président Normal 1er.

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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of course, that's it *-:) ! Make us all have CdS so Hollande can employ loads of people to process them & set the economy alight along the way :-

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Depending how well you know your Maire, Bayleaf, you could ask for an attestation of residence. I forget now why we needed one originally, but it has come in handy for all sorts of situations. Especially ones involving jobsworths :ymsmug:

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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Agree, when I submitted my 2nd tax return for some reason they asked for proof of residence and I got an attestation from my Mairie, they had a pad of them behind the counter and knocked one without question on the spot.


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Brilliant! :-bd I'll try that today. Thank you! (And hope that the helpful staff are on duty! :- )

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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Well, that was a roaring success ......NOT!

Showed them what I needed it for, and said wouldn't it do instead of CdeS which is obsolete now...they said just an EDF facture is usually ok, and send the Bilan with the Avis D'Imposition.

(They just couldn't be bothered to sort out the form I reckon!!) :-q

So, not all Mairies are helpful!!! And I was nice and polite, they even asked if I was French! :shock:

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The letter from the mairie proving residence doesn't work for the Carte grise either as Fabbo found out last week. :D

Doe anybody know anybody who has done a carte grise, CPAM, declaration de do da da or whatever in one go ?

No ?

Neither do we !

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It's a little difficult if you don't have utility bills, although I'd guess most people have phone bills.
Even so, given that you need (in practice) to be resident for over half the year to have an avis d'imposition, there's no reason why tax residency shouldn't suffice for all the other bods.

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MAD87 wrote:
It's a little difficult if you don't have utility bills, although I'd guess most people have phone bills.
Even so, given that you need (in practice) to be resident for over half the year to have an avis d'imposition, there's no reason why tax residency shouldn't suffice for all the other bods.

That option sounds way too easy!!! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Proof of "résidence stable et effective en France"
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http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/dgi/pu ... Page=ifi01 Think that's the form, Bayleaf. I'd print it off and present it to your secretary at the Mairie with a big pink bow stuck to it :D Don't see how they can refuse you one if you ask.... :-?

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